Novo Anúncio Da Proposta 19 - Vote Yes

[Soul_Surfer]

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Vamos ser honestos: A guerra contra a maconha fracassou. Eu sei disso por causa dos meus 35 anos na polícia. Hoje, é mais fácil pra um adolescente comprar maconha do que cerveja.

A Proposta 19 vai tributar e controlar a maconha assim como o álcool.

Isso vai gerar bilhões de dólares para comunidades locais, permitir que a polícia foque em crimes violentos, e tirar mercado dos cartéis.

Junte-se a mim e muitos outros da polícia.

Vote SIM na Proposta 19!

Quem fala é o ex-chefe de polícia aposentado de San Jose, Joseph Mcnamara.

[Semnoya]

vai ser legalizado, tenho certeza. espero q os usuarios da califa mantenham sempre o respeito, fumem na paz e sem problemas ligados a violenica. vai ser um passo enorme pros estados unidos e com certeza pro resto do mundo no futuro. Inovador, sensato, bem organizado e justo...to acompanhando de perto e esperando o grande dia pra ver a reaçao aqui no brasil. Tomara q minha candidata dilma siga esse grandioso passo.

amem! PAZ!

[O Homem Planta]

ainda to em cima do muro, mas na moral, é melhor um cobertor pequeno que dormir no frio...

[Percoff]

Mais apoiadores da causa:

Yes 19

[O Homem Planta]

E oque os growers aqui andam falando?

MeJuana

Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 132 MeJuana's Gallery This is it for legalization in our lifetimes, stand behind legalization or in the way of it is your choice right now. If the economy wasn't so horrible there wouldn't be a chance of legalization. YOU WILL NEVER GET WHAT YOU WANT THE FIRST TIME!! I feel like I am negotiating for Gaza Strip here..

If we pass Prop 19

California legalizes it.. Nevada follows in our footsteps but they do it better.. California amends to compete in clubs and etc.. Everyone keeps out doing the other and eventually we have real legalization.

If Prop 19 fails

You will hate the next one too, if it even makes it to the ballots again. Which I don't think so.

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skwirlgirl Farmer

..uhh not really legal..it will still be a fed' crime so that word LEGAL really doesn't apply. The one ounce is legal is crap. Anyone can have an ounce these days and basically walk. LEGAL...oh pahlleeeeese dont' give me that jive. Legal for the 4 big Dam' clubs maybe...but not for us mom an poppers'

Make no mistake this law was DESIGNED TO REDISTRIBUTE THE MAJORITY OF CANNA BIZ' REVENUE among the people who wrote and promoted it.

They make is sound all revolutionary and ground breaking. I see them talking a big media legal game.

I guess they didn't predict the feds intervening...doh

And saying there won't be another chance for legaslation is a bit naive. It's California for petes' sake... and now that big biz wants the 'big piece of pie' so to speak..I believe they'll do anything to make it happen ie political contributions, bribes whatever.

I hope we get another law but this one is wrong and the sooner you realize that you'll be voting NO like the rest of the informed Cali folks..and the part about Nevada following suit..that's a stretch too. Booz is way too popular there and weed is in direct competition so who knows.

AND now that the feds have put their foot down lots of politicians are backing down

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[O Homem Planta]

amstercal Senior Farmer

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 259 amstercal's Gallery Twist: It won't void rx's. Everything will stay in place for patients except the cultivation limits. That's in jeopardy because that word was (coincidentally? I don't have an anti-Lee stance because I don't know him to make a judgement, but the omission of the word does benefit him as someone who has already made it known he will be pursuing a commercial growing license and limited medical growers to the 5x5 would eliminate his competition) left out of the section that protects 215.

The AG is not threatening people into voting a certain way. He's just reminding them that it's still illegal under federal law. At least the administration came out and said how they'd be handling it. I kind of thought they wouldn't since Obama still has another election to go through. This at least remind the pro-19 people that there is the costly and frustrating federal battle to be had.

My county doesn't have any city-approved dispensaries currently because every city has banned them. This prop just ensures that not only would we not be getting these new "pot stores" but dispensaries would now be under even more heat because now the feds would be back on their case checking to make sure they're not a "pot store."

Oh and in addition can we stop the gay bashing? I realize some of you may genuinely feel that way and I don't expect to change your belief system, but could we keep it off here? Please.

[indoor_borg]

"Este é um pequeno passo para um homem, mas um grande salto para a humanidade"

Neil Armstrong

[O Homem Planta]

mrdizzle Senior Farmer

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,687 mrdizzle's Gallery heres my take, the whole legalization is has cut in line. acceptance of marijuana nation wide is on the up and up. more and more states are adapting MMJ laws and more will follow. I honestly think the whole legalization bit is about 10 premature. Get all state rocking medical first, or at least 70%, then take a bite at legalization. trying to legalize now is honestly going to 1.) allow many other states to say "see, there is no medical value, its just to get it legalized 2.) kick back the MMJ movement as a whole as a legit resource for the sick.

crawl, walk, run. greedy cunts like dick slurp lee are going to fuck it alllllll up, mark my words, this bill will be the biggest regret in a couple years

[O Homem Planta]

A proposta 19 nao é em nenhuma forma a legalizacao da maconha, ela nao passa da taxação e da regulamentação da maconha.

isso nao vai interferir em nada com oque os feds já estao fazendo aqui, na verdade ela vai reduzir o numero de pessoas que atualmente sao pacientes, porque vai excluir todos que sao menores de 21 anos da lista.

pra voce ter uma ideia, o richard lee é tao filha da puta que ele colocou na primeira proposta que ele escreveu uma cláusula falando que só poderia plantar quem fosse "DONO" do imovel, ou seja, quem mora de aluguel ia ter que comprar das 4 grandes empresas dele... Porque se voce nao tem sua casa propria e paga, e que ainda por cima seja longe sei la quantas milhas de uma escola (oque é quase impossivel aqui) voce nao pode plantar.

na boa, é o cobertor pequeno.

melhor que passe e deixe o assunto com mais forca, e daqui a uns anos a gente tenta melhorar essa lei, que ta pior que a 215, mas pelo menos já que ta todo mundo quebrado nos USA hj, ta chamando a atencao...

enquanto isso, os feds vao ter mais argumentos pra continuar apavorando a vida de todo mundo aqui.

vamo lá, oque é um peido pra quem já ta cagado? ;]

[bugasman]

A Prop 19 não altera em nada a lei da maconha medicinal que já funciona na Califa. Isso de acordo com o que li.

[Percoff]

Acho que mesmo se a Califa liberar geral ainda demora uns 5 anos pra aqui começar a pegar no tranco o assunto de verdade

[Nhacoma_Mafu]

Se a proposta ganhar, quando vai começar a valer??...estarei na califa em janeiro...tenho que ficar por dentro dessa parada...rsrsrsrsrs

[felipebodyboarder]

no dia seguinte ja ta valendo man.....

[Smoke A lot]

Realmente pode ser um tiro de 38 no pé ou um de sal grosso no peito...vamos esperar e ver o que acontece!

[mprado1]

Achei isso:

How will Prop 19 affect you?

• Are you age 18-20? You will not be allowed to consume cannabis legally under Prop 19. Currently, all you need is a medical recommendation to do so.

• Do you interact with anyone under age of 21? You will be looking at up to 6 months in jail for passing them a joint. (If the person is under 18 you will be looking at up to 7 years in prison.)

• Do you live in the same "space" and a minor? (Space could mean anything from the same house to an entire apartment complex.) You will not be allowed to consume cannabis.

• Do you rent your home? Prop 19 will only allow you to grow cannabis if you have permission from your landlord. Due to the risks involved, many (if not most) California landlords do not allow it. How is this legalization?

• Do you grow cannabis with a doctor recommendation? Prop 19 will likely be interpreted by law enforcement and judges to limit your grow space to 5′x5′.

• Do you provide your extra medical cannabis to dispensaries? It will be a crime to do so if Prop 19 passes. In addition, large Oakland growers and tobacco companies will take control of the market and push you out.

• Do you currently have to use your medical cannabis anywhere but home? Prop 19 will prevent patients from using their medicine anywhere in pubic. Which for many people with illnesses is not always possible.

• Do you sell your extra medical cannabis to other medical patients? Prop 19 will make this practice illegal. Even if you are only selling it to cover your growing cost.

• Do you currently enjoy the use of cannabis free from Government interference? Not only will the Government impose excessive taxes under Prop 19, but the federal government will likely respond with unprecedented action against California cannabis users. "The federal Controlled Substances Act makes it a felony to grow or sell cannabis. California can repeal its own marijuana laws, leaving enforcement to the feds. But it can’t legalize a federal felony. Therefore, any grower or seller paying California taxes on marijuana sales or filing pot-related California regulatory paperwork would be confessing, in writing, to multiple federal crimes."

sad that such a large amount of supporters of prop 19 will be voting to degrade the quality of weed and make it illegal for any person under 21 (even with medical cards) to use. handing over the industry to big tobacco, and create new felonies.

[O Homem Planta]

and the list goes on and on...e a eleição é amanha...

[Mystic Vibration]

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